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My daughter's cat is never very affectionate and he usually hisses at strangers when they arrive, then later ignores them. When I go to her house he comes running up to me and rubs against my legs until I reach down and pet him. At this point he either hisses or growls but keeps coming back to rub on me. He will play with me if he's in the mood, but if I scratch his neck or pet him, he hisses half-heartedly.
Its apparent he's not afraid of me and he always comes to greet me. He still ignores or hisses at her in laws and other family members. Why does he run to greet me but won't accept even a casual scratch? Is this some sort of grumpy cat syndrome? A weird way of saying hi?
I am a cat person and have had cats throughout my entire life. My mom's cat acted similarly. It was an odd game we played. I'd pick him up and snuggle him, he'd hiss or growl at me then he'd get his string and bring it to me to play.
I think its odd but kind of funny, so we do our little dance. Why does he act this way? His mom is a domesticated, but feral born cat as, I suspect, is his father. Is this some sort of wild behavior?
I have always been nice to my gfs Maine Coon I have only disciplined him with a spray bottle of water a few times when he would get on curtains.
Then all of a sudden a week after the last spraying of water he now hisses at me when he sees me and runs and hides like his life is in danger he has even made bowel movements and urinated when I tried to hold him or bathe him.
So I now leave him alone but he doesn't come around and hates me still. What should I do and will he ever like me. He likes everyone else. He is now 6 to 7 months old please help.
As I read this along, the pieces came right together. This one is pretty clear.
OK. First, cats don't "hate" people the way we sometimes think. That's a human emotion. But, they do have preferences and they do have foods or even people they don't care for. In your case, this boy's feelings are much stronger than dislike. I have to say, if you had played your cards differently he would have been snuggled up on your lap purring by now. But, it's not too late.
So what's going on with him? Pure and simple fear. A kind of innocent fear. Self preservation (hissing) and then utter terror (losing bodily control in your arms).
I would wager to guess you haven't had a kitten in your adult life that you've been in charge of?
The first clue I have is in his age. As a kitten, he was still becoming adjusted to his new home and new people when you began training him. He had not yet built trust. Maine Coon kittens arrive in their new homes as friendly, happy kittens but they don't have a trust-based bond yet.
Kittens will be naughty. Usually a "psst!" or just removing them from whatever they are doing is enough. The water bottle was overboard, and too soon.
Spraying the water bottle is more of a dog training technique. It can be used on secure cats when nothing else works. The water bottle is a no-holds-barred, full-on cat training method.
Then, he began to grow. He realized he is his own being, and now shows signs of defending himself from his perceived attacker!
So, on to the next. At this point, to hold him against his will and try to bathe him! induces sheer panic in him. He doesn't know what horrible fate awaits him!
Definitely, do not bathe him! There is no need. If he's really grubby for some reason, let your girlfriend do it. Yes, it's good to start them young on the habit, but I think that ship has sailed.
To turn things around, try leaving him be for a while. You must build trust with him. When he sees that you're not a threat, he may come around. It could take a while. You could hold out a treat, give it to him with nothing in return. Then perhaps give him a little pet and be done. He may never take to you quite the same as your girlfriend. Some cats don't care for men. It can stem from something that happened in kitten-hood!
Take your time, and be gentle. Never try to "push." Think of him as a tender little soul.
The kittie is scared! you sorta have to make friends on their terms, and when they are ready. Coonies are famously gentle cats, so just leave him alone and he'll come to you when he's ready! They can be loyal to one person above all others, so take that into consideration as well.
by the way
thanks so much carrie for the help. i had it in my head that if i held him and cuddled him he would see i was not a threat and he only got bathed because we found him sleeping in attic with a bed of fiberglass insulation and was all dirty but again thanks so much for the help again
I agree totally.
I agree totally. Think like Cesar Millan: No eye contact, no talk, no touch. It is going to take a while for him to get over what he perceived as aggressive treatment by you.
My maine coon kitten has started growling
I have 2 Maine Coon kittens a boy and girl both six months old, the boy has suddenly started to growl when he has a toy in his mouth not only at my other kitten but me, is this normal, they have yet to be neutered.
This is very normal for a kitten his age who hasn't been neutered. In fact, when I read your title, the first thing that came to my mind was, "is he neutered?"
It's time to take them in for spaying/neutering! He will mellow out, and they are at the age for it anyway. He's not too young to start displaying some adult behaviors with his sister! This is about when that could start.
Buddy growls @ 18 weeks old
by: Judy (UK)
When a male kitten growls, does this mean it's time he was neutered? Buddy occasionally 'combs' my hair using his claws, bites and pulls it. This happens when he's found a perch higher than me. Is it dominant behaviour? The experience isn't pleasant, particularly when I've just washed my hair.
He loves his wand toys and his tunnel. I bought a kids tunnel from Argos @ (£9.99) instead of the more expensive cat ones. He's so energetic. He's almost learnt to tumble it as he uses his back legs.
The clicker training is working as he's a greedy boy. Thank goodness for the talented author(UK).
Buddy has a loud purr and expresses his opinion on our actions with him. He chatters quietly to himself whether we are in the room with him or not.
Are there any 'wild' Maine Coon around any more?
Buddy sounds like a fun, energetic, ball of kitten! He must be very handsome, too!
As for the growling, it's a sign he's growing up. He's no longer a young kitten assuming an "inferior" role. Now, he's becoming an adolescent, pushing boundaries, and "trying out" for Alpha Male position. Ont the other hand, he is still a kitten so some of it is just play. Very much like human children role-play to prepare for adulthood!
That said, it's also a perfect time to have him neutered. Once it's done he'll remain his sweet mellow self and probably not make any more attempts for Alpha status.
As for the rough grooming, our Alice does exactly the same thing! She sits on the top of the couch and "grooms." It quickly turns into bites, though they are not malicious, they do hurt.
I think it's the same thing cats do to each other. They groom each other, and if one is feeling frisky, he/she bites, then they run off to chase each other. It's like "frisky grooming." A funny quirk.
Wild Maine Coons: Not any more. The term harks back to the old days. For many generations Maine Coons have been living the good life in houses, having all their needs met. They are a registered pedigreed cat now.
The "wild" Maine Coons of the past cared for themselves outdoors & so they had to be good hunters & survivors. These days, the closest thing to wild would be feral cats. And of course that would be the furthest comparison to a modern Maine Coon cat.
I'm glad the clicker training is working for you. I haven't heard much about it for cats, but I'll look into it!
Overly Agressive 2 year old female Maine Coon
(Cortland, IL, USA)
Maine Coon Cat Aggression
It seems to me like she has split personalities.
One minute she will be nice and friendly. She always greets me when I come in the house and she sleeps on my headboard at night. Sometimes I can pick her up and pet her.
Anyone else who comes in my house gets a warning growl and a hiss followed by unprovoked attacks. When I play with her we normally play fetch (lately she wont return the ball she just chases it around)
She likes to play kinda rough but only uses her claws on me when I try to trim them. Its getting to the point where I am debating getting her declawed because she wont let me cut her nails.
She absolutely hates one of my female friends. What can I do to calm her down so she is less aggressive and how can I get her to let me cut her nails?
Also she likes licking plastic grocery bags whats up with that?Reply
Well you certainly have your hands full with your girl! There could be a couple of causes to her issues.
Unfortunately it's not as simple as training a pet dog. Cats have a mind of their own. Although the are trainable to a certain extent, aggression is a difficult problem.
She could be experiencing anxiety, insecurity, or fear. Fear aggression can certainly be dealt with.
She clearly loves you, but becomes stressed with your visitors. Some training can show her that your visitors are friendly, not to be feared.
Try having your visitor give her a treat, then removing your girl to her own room till your visitor leaves, gradually increasing the time she can be with your company. If she attacks, don't scold her (it will only hurt, not help) just remove her.
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Licking grocery bags! This is actually a surprisingly popular habit! My Leo does it (he chews too), as do countless other cats. No one really knows why they do it, but there is speculation it has to do with the animal fats that are in the plastic. I know, yuck!
All The Best With Your Girl,
by: Mike De Graaf
(Rockford, Mi. 49341)
When it's time for bed he hangs on his cat tree and will bite if you pull him off, he is 10 months old, drew blood twice on me so I flicked his nose hard, bit my wife once.
Has his own room at night and does not want to go there when its bed time. Has a bed, window with view of front yard, queen size bed in room, food water and litter, toys, small cat tree, and light music playing till we get home, need info on what they think and how they act.
I hold 1 finger up and tell him no to biting, and he puts his ears down and nails me even when I am holding him. When we get home he stays by his room outside the bedroom door and doesn't want to come by us.
You really have your hands full with this boy! Well, I have a couple of thoughts.
First, you didn't mention if he's a Maine Coon Cat (your questions are welcome if he's not!) I ask because the lack of affection when you get home, and the aggressively biting you even when you are trying to cuddle him are not normal for the breed. If you got him from a breeder I would highly recommend that you contact your breeder and explain the aggression issues that your boy is having.
Second, is he neutered? This is about the age when a male will try to establish his 'Alpha' role in the household. Biting and aggression are just one way. Other pet owners struggle with spraying at around this time if their boy is un-neutered. Sounds like you don't have other pets so this might explain why he's not spraying. But still he is at that age to begin showing dominance. If he's not neutered doing so now could solve your problems.
The lack of affection when you come home concerns me. Most Maine Coons will be very loving towards their people. They miss them during the day and want lots of love in the evening.
As for going to bed in the evening, that's a time when he is yet again establishing his independence. (Much like a human child who doesn't want to go to bed!) I would recommend making him an offer he can't refuse. How about withholding canned cat food until this special time? He'll likely come running to his room for that, and some pets, too.
Hope this helps &
All The Best,
Well, now that I have some more info about Toby it is crystal clear where your problems lie. By the way, you've been getting some sound advice from the other Maine Coon lovers here.
First, what is not the problem:
He is not showing dominance. Since he's neutered and the cause is clearly elsewhere (which I'll get to) you can rule out dominant or Alpha aggression issues.
So, please, no more behavior-modifying techniques. They somewhat remind me of what one might do with a dog, though many folks would disagree with your techniques, even for a dog.
The training you are trying to do is hurting and not helping. It's clear you love your kitty and are trying to do the best for him. I would recommend you go out and get a cat behavior book,
since he's your first cat and there is a lot to learn, for any new cat owner.
You absolutely do not have to show Toby who's boss. Maine Coon cats are naturally loving, friendly and docile. What you perceive as training, he perceives as attack by a predator. He is confused as to your role and his. He's not a member of the pack but more of an outsider trying to keep safe.
On to the problem (this may be hard to hear, but it is the info you requested on what Toby is thinking and why he's acting the way he is):
Not only does he think he's in danger (being flicked on the nose or pulled here or there or being laid on his back, however gently is going to induce only fear) but now that he's under attack he doesn't have his primary means of defense: Claws
Herein lies your problem, and now that the deed is done I'm not sure exactly what the remedy is. You see, all the info on declawing is geared toward educating folks against it and showing them the alternatives, like scratching posts.
It's a well known fact that declawed cats are prone to cat litter box issues (which can arise years later) and to aggression issues through biting. See, Toby has lost a crucial part of his body. He would never have used his claws to scratch aggressively but now that they are gone he is defenseless and in a sense, paranoid.
Cat Declawing is now illegal in much of Europe and some parts of the US. It's viewed as mutilation, as it is a very painful procedure. It leads to behavior problems. It is advocated against by virtually every pet association out there, and many vets won't perform it. I would assume your breeder had you agree not to declaw Toby? The responsible, reputable breeders of all breeds would be heartbroken to see their kittens altered in this way. The natural disposition of a Maine Coon is so docile. I have raised 2 children with my 2 Coonies and these cats have unlimited patience with all kinds of handling. Cats need their claws for more than just scratching, & there is more on our Cat Declawing page.
I say this not to make you feel badly. Again, I think you did what you thought you were supposed to do. But this page will have many future readers who will learn from this example of how delcawing can change the disposition of a Maine Coon.
Not all cats will react this way, of course, but not all people who don't wear their seatbelt will have an accident. It's about being informed before it's too late.
So, Mike, on to you and Toby now. First, he may never be the affectionate love-bug he would have become with his claws. But, there are steps you can take to make things better.
1) As we mentioned, no more behavior training.
2) Yes, you should just wait for him to come to you. Don't reach down and pick him up for a while, until he start to trust.
3) I do understand the need for sleep. It's a personal decision whether you want to have a kitten pouncing on you all night. For those of us that work all day, we need our sleep! So, at bedtime, how about tempting him with canned food or treats so he'll go to his room? Or even teasing him with a toy he'll chase right into his room? (then treats for a reward)
4) You should reach the point where he will let you pick him up and he'll feel secure about it. Right now, he just doesn't know what's going to happen to him.
5) It would be great if you could get him to come up on your lap in the evening. If he could have a chance to bond, purr, and see that the only thing you have for him is a soft touch, he should come around.
Well, these are my thoughts for now...
Please send us an update after some time!
Mike, don't punish a cat by hitting his nose or any other part. That only makes them frightened and more aggressive. Carry around a spray bottle and spray the cat with water if he gets wacky. After a while, he will associate the water bottle (not YOU) with wrong behavior. Trust me it works! And, coonies need to be with their people A LOT.
by: Mike De Graaf
My cat is a Maine Coon from a breeder, paid a lot for him his name is Toby, ten months old, had him declawed and fixed right away, has all shots, only pet we have and never been outside. He bit me so hard when I pulled him out from under the Christmas tree I had to spend News Years Day at medical center, my arm is swollen and infected bad. He gives me attention and still rubs on me and eats treats from my hand, how long will he try to be dominant ? I tried to lay him down gently and put my leg over him and talk to him and show him I am the boss. Do I just let him come to me when he wants petting? Am I not to pick him up when I want? Its my first Maine Coon, I dont know how they think, my first cat. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Mike.
he wants to be with you
Is there a reason he is locked in a separate bedroom at night?. I have two maine coons; the kitten is 10 months old, spayed and declawed and is extremely loving. Some nights she sleeps on the bed, sometimes she doesn't. My 5 year old male is neutered and declawed and he very seldom comes in to bed at night, or, if he does come in its only for a short time then he is off to another part of the house to sleep. Your kitten wants to be with you, don't banish him to a room all alone when you are in the house. OH and don't flick his nose..that's not going to solve any aggression. Be firm and speak in slow low tones so he knows you mean business.
hey that kitten seems to need more socialization! show more love and affection and try not to react physically to bites so as to not encourage him with the attention it brings. be more hands on with play and affection and he may learn to show some love back!
cats do not have a boss
"I tried to lay him down gently and put my leg over him and talk to him and show him I am the boss. Do I just let him come to me when he wants petting? Am I not to pick him up when I want? Its my first Maine Coon, I dont know how they think, my first cat."
First and foremost, have you heard the saying "dogs drewl, cats rule"? You don't dominate cats, they run the house, you are there to wait on them, feed them, clean the litter box, play with them. Love your kitten, don't try to show him you are the boss because really you aren't. Pet him when you want to,pick him up but don't try to force anything with him he will just ignore you. Some cats are more independent than others, you happen to have gotten an independent one. Maybe you should get a second kitty so he has a playmate. Why did you pull him out from under the christmas tree?. Cats love anything new and claim it as theirs. If you want to be the big boss of the house, get a dog.
Never De-claw a Cat
Declawing a cat is very painfull and a horrible thing to do to a creature! How would you like someone to amputate all your fingertips?
If this is your first cat you probably have never heard of things like fear aggression.
Here's what you said you do to try to interact with kitty.
"I tried to lay him down gently and put my leg over him and talk to him and show him I am the boss. Do I just let him come to me when he wants petting? Am I not to pick him up when I want?"
Ok, so cats would see you putting a leg over them to hold them in place as something very mean and hostile. It would never happen to them in the wild unless a large animal caught them and was about to kill them.
At this point, your kitty has already become fearful of you and is reacting by laying his ears back and biting you. He's telling you to stay away or face his wrath.
Flicking his nose, dragging him out of places that he "thinks" are shelter for him (under a tree, in a cupboard, etc), putting a leg over him to restrain him or using any other method of restraining him will only make his fear worse.
Sooooo, for now you are going to have to push a reset button and start all over again with your furry friend. =)
The way to do that is to not pick him up or pet him unless he comes to you and jumps in your lap or rubs on your legs. If he rubs and purrs, lean down and pet him for just a minute, then walk away. Don't let it get to the point that he lashes out at you.
If you see his ears go back, walk away and ignore him.
If you keep doing that, he'll learn in a few weeks that you are a safe person and he'll start to trust you again.
At that point you'll see a BIG change and he'll be running to greet you at the door, hopping in your lap for naps and all those other good things we love about cats.
I have a new cat too, and she has a LOT of fear aggression because of her former home. The humans who owned her just kept making it all worse until it got to the point that they took her to a shelter.
I've been working with her for a few months now and she is finally becoming a very loving, sweet cat. So it works, I promise!
Oh and if you can manage it, just let your cat sleep wherever it wants to at night. If it makes a lot of noise playing, you could try playing with him before bedtime so that he'll be worn out and sleep through the night.
I use a 5 foot long piece of heavy twine and tie a piece of an old sock on the end of it. Then I just drag it around the floor behind me and my cat goes crazy chasing it till she's out of breath and exhausted.
Thank you everyone for your helpful suggestions, Toby and I are doing better, we are starting over fresh. He is responding well. Mike.
declawing is OK
I have five cats all who are spayed/neutered and declawed. Three are siamese and two are maine coons. They are all very loving, yes even the siameses, and happy and well adjusted. Don't let all these comments of declawing make you feel bad. You did what you felt was necessary for you and your cat to have a long happy life together. If you look at shelters, 95% of the cats looking for new homes are adult cats with claws. Not all cats will always use scratching posts believe me, I had a cat who was 16 years old when he died who used my sofa for a scratching post. Nothing I did would deter his actions and I'm sure any other owner would have sent him packing. Ever since I have declawed my cats when they were neutered/spayed and I am sure both surgeries are very painful. My cats are all very happy, no litter box issues, no aggression issues, they all still stretch and 'scratch' as they would with claws, sleep together, wash each other...and my dogs as well. One final question: which would you rather have: your fingers cut off at the first knuckle which healed and live your life in a warm loving home with all the food and love you could want, or your entire fingers and put out at 2 years of age to fend for yourself in a world you don't know,hungry, scared, chased by animals, hit by a car, injured and left dying in a ditch or freezing to death. I think i prefer the first scenario.
by: Judy UK
You might try positive reinforcementi.e. entice him away with a treat; when he has complied reward. The same whether i
he's on his 'tree' or anywhere. let him smell the treat with your hand closed, then call him to you a good few feet away. It's worked well with Buddy 99%.
Try to remnain calm picture somewhre with pleasant peaceful memories - believe me it works!. All animals pick up on our energy, if you're angry you'll project it.
Good luck Mike
I have always had cats (indoor only) and they have always been declawed. The first one lived for 23 years and was perfectly fine, friendly and never had problems. She was part persian. My last one was 17 1/2 years with diabetes for nearly 4 years (well-maintained) and had been declawed at 6 months and never had any adjustment issues -also half persian. My new cat is almost a year. We adopted her from a shelter at 2 months old and the shelter had already had her fixed at 8 weeks old - THAT seems cruel and wrong if you ask me. Even my vet said she won't do that surgery on any kitten younger than 6 months. This one we discovered is part maine coon - also had her declawed and there have been absolutely NO issues at all as some have tried to scare you with here. She had no problem with the litter box after surgery (we did get the paper litter for the time) and has had no issues since. She is very friendly and well-adjusted. I believe declawing is a personal opinion matter. Everyone has their reasons and mostly it's furniture. I question those that claim their cat's personalities changed after declawing because that has never ever been my experience. Maine Coons are highly active and playful. It's like having a two year old that never wears out! Just have patience.
Toby has been very good, I would not trade him for anything, we have become very close. He still marks his food dish area and very window he looks out,I think thats cute. He is happy without claws and neutered, he will never go outside, he has 2,700 square feet to call his own. I never knew how much a Maine Coon will shed, he needs brushed daily thats for sure.He doesn't bite any more, and when he is on his cat tree which is 7 feet high , thats his safe spot, I let him rest, plus he can get away from grandkids there if they chase him too much. All in all we are buddies now, thanks to everyone for your encouragement. Mike
Toby also eats his treats from my hand now, loves his baths, and he even turned on bathroom faucet once after watching me, i caught him washing his hands, then getting a drink.He looks forward to that but i keep door closed when i am gone.He runs fast and jumps very high,he can reach 40 inches now at 1 year old. Every box that comes in house he has to try fitting in it, he also sleeps on my bed for part of the night. He is a lot different than owning a dog, and much easier to maintain. He is fun, and I am glad he is declawed, but I wouldn't do that if he went outside.
All those saying they've never had behaviour problems, so what? YOU got a cat, YOU knew that cats came with claws, you have no right to get an animal then surgically change it, if you didn't want a cat with claws, you shouldn't have gotten a cat, oh no your poor furniture, boohoo I feel so bad for you, get over yourselves, put your animal first or don't have one, would you cut off your childs finger tips just because he kept finger painting on your walls? If you declaw your cat for reasons other than medically necessary ones then you're cruel and do NOT love your cat no matter what you say.
Maine Coon biting
I got a rescue Maine Coon who was already declawed front and back. The person who had him went into a nursing home and put him in rescue. I have had him about 5 months. He is loving and sweet when he wants. I can pet him sometimes. Depends on HIS mood. I would never declaw one and I really fee sorry for the cat. But, I was glad to read about Toby because my cat wants to bite a lot. He has bit the blood out of me a few times and wants to bite almost anytime I want to pet her. I am very cautious around him as I dont like to get bitten. Frankly, I have been disappointed as I got him for company. Another factor is that the litter box hss to be quite large and is very hard for me to clean it. I am 75 with problems. I had no idea that the litter would be that much of a problem because of the size of the cat. He has wonderful home with me and gets the best treatment, but dont know how long I can do this. Also, I afraid all the time when I pet him I am going to bitten again.
Aggressive protective male
I adopted a one year old maine coon from the humane society. From the beginning, he was a low fear, high sociability, high aggression cat. He loved spending time with me, but I had the scars and scratches to show for it.
Over time, he became less aggressive, and he still greets everyone who comes to the house by jumping on the tv stand and waiting for them to acknowledge him. However, if they try to pet him, he will swat them or scratch them.
If workmen come to the house, he follows them everywhere, but doesn't want them to pet him. He sleeps by my head, but sometimes claws me or bites down on me when I touch him. He's very emotionally attached to me, but can't seem to stop himself from being aggressive.
What can I do to get him to be less aggressive? My friends and family are afraid of this wonderful cat!
PS. He is now 3 years old and in great health.
It sounds like your boy has a purely behavioral issue. He's misbehaving, but may not even know that he is. He didn't have the advantage of a nurturing home environment during the first year, when he was learning how to interact with others.
I'm glad to hear you still think the world of him. I think a little re-training is in order, and he'll be a gentleman for you and your guests!
First, the scratching: You can minimize it's effects immediately through a couple of measures. Clipping his claws will take the sting away.
By clipping, he learns that his claws are not a tool for dominance. They're neutralized, and he loses that "leverage".
The biting and general dominance: He's still trying to establish his place in the household. In multiple cat households, one cat will be Alpha. They'll establish their position through swatting, biting and generally attacking the others in a display of hierarchy.
Since you are the "other" cat, he's doing it with you and other people! He'll be fine if you gently show him who's boss. He's very secure, so I don't mind advising the use of a small water bottle.
When he is sitting on the tv stand ready to attack, get ready (hide the bottle behind your back) Try giving him a small squirt on the body, not face, right when he attacks someone. You must have it in hand, ready to go. Skip it if you have to go get it. Just a little squirt, enough to distract him.
Alternatively, if you don't have one handy you could try blowing on him, or gently tapping his nose.
I stress for all those reading this: Cats can be trained, just like dogs (especially Maine Coon cats!) These measures are gentle taps and other distractions that do not harm a a cat in any way. They will redirect his aggressive behavior and make him forget the trouble he was getting into.
Within short order, he'll be able to greet guests without attacking them. He may not want to be petted, but if he can be a gentleman he should get a treat! The goal is for him to associate "being social" with a treat, not a show of dominance. If your guest approached him with a treat in hand, it's very unlikely he'll attack them.
Good luck and keep us updated!
A pat on the head
When it cam time for me to dischipline my cat, I would lightly tap him on the head and sharply say "No." After a while, just saying "no" did the trick and after then, he eventually stopped the clawing.
Aggressive Maine Coon
I've tried all of above he likes water and doesn't mind being squirted and have tried distractions but he's still aggressive toward me luv him to death help
by: Noah's Mom
We just adopted a mainecoon Noah back in FEB. He is agreed a gental soul but, he is biting. I to have just started with the water bottle but, he loves water and doesn't seem to mind it, my other problem is we named him "Noah" so we quickly learned that we couldn't use "no" we now have started using Stop it.
We do however have an older female (13) and he will not seem to leave her alone. She is a mere 7-8 lbs and he is much much bigger then her. I am worried that he will hurt her. She does fight back but, you can tell she is tired of it & I have no idea how to stop him?
Aggressive Maine Coon Rescue
I adopted Zetty from the local humane society 2 years ago. He's now abt 4 yrs old. He was neutered when I adopted him, but I don't know at what age. I'm his 3rd owner. According to the sketchy vet records that came with him, it appears that Zed's whiskers were burned when he was a kitten. (I don't know how old he was when he left his mother.) When I adopted him, the girl at the humane society told me that he tended to be "grouchy."
Within our first few months together, Zed had attacked my feet w/o warning & drawn blood 3 times. The last time was bad enough that I needed a tentanus shot & anti-biotics. Then he seemed to relax and the attacks stopped. I figured Zetty had become the lovable Maine Coon I had heard so much about. He snuggled with me on the sofa, frequently washed my face and then nipped the end of my nose, was a generally great cat.
Fast foward to the end of July 2010. Zetty & I now live in a small house with a Rottie mix that I adopted from the shelter in January. Within 2 days, Zetty had out-of-nowhere attacked me AND the dog. This attack was by far the worse: this time on my calf & it was almost instantly infected. The doctor at Urgent Care was amazed that a cat was responsible for such a large and severe bite.
Zed's vet says it's a temperament issue. My mom, who has 2 MCs, says Zed is making a play for Alpha now that the dog has accepted me as "pack leader". All I know is that I don't trust Zed any more, but I can't bear the thought of having him euthanized. (I don't think it's fair to Zetty or whoever might adopt him to shuffle him off to yet another home.)
If you were in my shoes, would you give up on Zed?
Boy, you have had a hard time. I'm sorry to hear your rescue story hasn't exactly been what one hopes for.
It does sound like Zed hasn't been properly loved or socialized before he came to you. Getting the dog probably set him right over the edge. And just when he was coming around, too! That must be frustrating.
Your question "would I give up on Zed" is so hard to answer. In an ideal world, I'd say no, never give up. But I have young children. That's one of many personal situations that can change someone's answer.
Would I have him euthanized? No, absolutely not, not ever. That's an area I can't go, unless an animal is already dying.
I don't know if you'll be able to keep him or not, but I'm sure he'd rather go to another home than be put down. That would be his say.
Speaking of his say, he could be saying he needs to be in a home without any other pets. This is the case with lots of rescue pets. They've been through "the system" and just can't get along with other pets. It's ok, they need to be someone's only pet.
So, considering that to be the last resort, lets think about what to do to keep him. If he's making a play for Alpha, consider establishing that as your role. Clip his claws, or use claw covers. Go ahead and use behavioral techniques when he bites you, like a spray bottle, blowing in his face (to cats, that is the same as you hissing at him!) and even using your hand to "lightly spank" his nose. Another trick is to make a loud, and sudden "Pssst!" sound. He needs to know he can't aggressively bite any person, least of all you.
Think about a mother cat or dog with her litter. She puts them right in their place when they get out of line, not violently, but matter-of-factly. Maybe these things could help, along with segregation and re-introduction to the poor dog, who I'm sure is a lovely addition.
Look into supplements for stress, anxiety and aggression. Many cat owners have found that to help.
If none of this help, meaning it's not just a play for Alpha position, I'd say he just can't live in peace with other animals. Maybe you could take your time finding a new home where he could find peace again. He could reach the happy place he was in before the dog came.
try another vet..
It sounds to me as if you've tried, the cat has tried and the dog. But it appears it's the vet who is the weak link in all of this. Look around, there are vets who specialize in cats and there are some who have an unofficial specialty in behavioral matters.
Call your closest school of veterinary medicine, if they're close enough it might be worth a trip for a consult or they may be able to suggest someone nearby. Their website would be another great resource.
Another option is to check in with a repsected local breeder of any breed of pure-bred cats and see who they suggest you talk to. I know there are now all sorts of psychiatric drugs available for dogs (neighbor's beagle is on prozaac for separation anxiety and it has worked wonders) but I'm not sure what's around for cats. It's worth pursueing. Good luck.
Aggressive Maine Coon Rescue
I hand-feed my maine coone his favorite snack, sliced roast beef. I also let him have his way around the house. I found that if I ignore him, he will come to me for attention.
A puppy can be very stressful for an adult cat. Providing puppy free areas, and letting him know that he is still loved are important. Even the addition of an adult dog can be difficult. How is the dog approaching the cat. If it is full of energy and bouncy, the cat will be very leary and lash out to get the dog to bounce somewhere else. If your cat was used to a play time or a pet time, he needs it now more than ever. It lets him know that the dog is not your only concern. Do look at getting claw covers. I won't suggest any particular brand. (no experience in that field, mine has always used no claws.) The cat wants a return to normalcy, which doesn't include a dog. A child fence may be a good idea to help provide a dog free area, and allows enough smell and ivestigate contact that the cat can feel safe and check it out on his own terms. Standing on the cat side of the fence may also help your cat. Giving your cat treats when he is near the fence can help him to learn that the dog is not always a bad experience. The dog will also need this experience, to know that he isn't to bounce at or chase the cat. (My Tinkers has an issue with dauchsands(can't spell.) She met one that bounced at her barking when she was small. I got climbed like a tree.) I've had a cat that would ignore the dog as long as she was under the furniture, and one that would sit with the dog eating the dog's food. It is up to your cat what level of involvement he chooses to have with the dog, but you can make the process as stress free as possible. Good luck :)
Are All Short Haired Maine Coons Agressive?
I rescued him at about 8 weeks old, he's almost 12 now. He doesn't listen at all; I try to show him when something is not right by spraying him with water, but he walks away just for that second he still comes back and does it again....
And when he is out in the living room he just meows a lot and jumps and runs. Is it weird? Because everyone I know that has a cat they are all calm and a little lazy, he is the opposite ...
I really want to have him sleep in bed and all but i don't trust him. I'm afraid he will make a mess (bite , rip , or knock something over)
It sounds like your cat is 12 weeks old now (not 12 years), is that right?
If so, he sounds like a normal and rambunctious kitten. It will be some time before he is a lazy cat like your friends'.
You're right, kittens are a bit crazy and they will knock things over. If you are concerned, put him in a "safe room" at night. Many cat owners do this.
Don't worry, this cute, adorable, and entertaining phase will pass. Then he will be a calm companion for you.
And regarding the water bottle, that is a good training tool, but I would say not a first choice. Spraying a cat with water is for very naughty behaviors or very stubborn cats. Right now, he has no idea what is off limits.
If he gets on a kitchen counter, for example, I would recommend clapping, saying "psst!", or better yet simply putting him down. He'll get it.
And yes, cats have a mind of their own. I find your statement about his "not listening" interesting. Dogs can be trained to listen up and obey, but not so much cats. All cats will do as expected when you are watching, and do as they please when you are not. It their nature.
And lastly, about your title: "Are All Short Haired Maine Coons Aggressive?", unless he is acting out in other ways, such as biting, growling, hissing and scratching people or other cats, what you have is not aggression. He sounds normal.
And, there is not a short-haired variety of Maine Coon cat. The only way to get a Maine Coon cat is through a Maine Coon cat breeder.
You may have a tabby cat who resembles a Maine Coon in some ways. If you suspect he is a Maine Coon mix I would recomend reading our articles on Maine Coon Mixes
and Maine Coon Cat Traits.
All The Best to you and your new boy,
We have had Jasper (Maine Coon) and Juno (British Short Hair) for about 9 months now. The were both rescued at the same time and adopted into our family and as kittens they used to play together running up and down the hall way and being generally kittens.
However since we got them both neutered and spayed for their own safety and responsibly Jasper seems to have changed and seems more aloof with Juno and sometimes hisses at her or swats her.
We do have separate food bowls and sleeping places for them, but Juno tends to sleep anywhere but Jasper is pretty set in stone that he only sleeps in 2 places either at the foot of our bed or on the sofa where his pillow is.
And if Juno comes anywhere near these places she will know about it from him. In fact yesterday he 'roared' at her like a lion like a dog sounded thing.
In short is this normal behavior for a Maine Coon adolescent male or is this caused by his neutering and emasculation?
I don't think it has anything to do with Jasper's being neutered. If anything, that would cause him to be more mellow, not less.
I think it's the natural process of the cats figuring out their "pecking order." It could stop or diminish over time, or he might always be more aloof with her. It's hard to say. But I think if Juno is easy-going about it, Jasper will "get over himself" eventually!
The only other thing I can think of is stress. If anything major has changed in the house, such as the addition of another pet, it could set him on edge. That could take a while.
All The Best,
Foundling Aggression Issues
by: S. Lindsey
I have what appears to all the information I can find a Ragdoll, Maine Coon mix.
She is around 4-5 yrs old (She was found behind a coffee shop, hiding in the dumpster.) She has always been aggressive with people she has not accepted into the family.
I have tried letting the visitor give her a treat or play with her when they come in. She still insists on either being actively aggressive (indicating that she will bite or scratch if they come near,) or sneakily aggressive (attacking elbows or ankles, with light bites or hard swats with no claws.)
Other than this behavior with visitors and sometimes myself, she adores my husband. He can do no wrong in her eyes. She constantly bugs him for lap time. She is very pissy about being disciplined to the point of hissing and swatting with both my husband and myself. (We do not touch her for discipline other than remove her from the area and telling her no.)
I would like to train her to a less aggressive stance. She is highly intelligent and will do tricks for treats, plays fetch and other play activities with her pound rescue Tabby/Egyptian Mau cross; so I know she is trainable.
Any ideas on how to train her to tone down the aggression? (I'm hoping for at least no active aggression with visitors.) (I believe her issue with me is a jealousy of my husband's attentions.)
I think you are right that her issues with you are related to her love of you husband. Although, that is still not a good thing. It's a display of dominance, and she is showing that he is "her" person.
The same is probably the case with your visitors. She feels she needs to assert her Alpha position to anyone who enters.
As for tips and training techniques for aggression, that does fall outside of my scope. The Maine Coon cat breed is specifically bred for an agreeable temperament. Ragdolls are also known for being exceptionally even-tempered.
Since around 97% of cats are of no particular breed, most domestic long haired or domestic medium haired cats are just that: DLH or DMH. They may have similar length of coat or size of a purebred. My past kitty Clyde was a Domestic Long Haired cat with a sweet nature and intelligence. He was what I'd call a Maine Coon Lookalike.
It would be very unlikely that a Maine Coon and Ragdoll mix would be aggressive, unless it was poorly bred or mistreated.
In any event, it is wonderful that you took her in and that she now has a stable home with you. She's a pretty girl.
How long have you had her? If it is not long, she probably needs more time to settle. She's probably trying to figure out her place. A momma cat would never tolerate dominance from her kittens, so keep that in mind when your girl tries to put you in your place.
The fact that she doesn't use her claws and her bites are light indicates that she doesn't want to hurt anyone. It could be fear, she may feel she needs to protect herself. Again, it sounds like she's not fully settled yet.
Some tried and true methods include a water bottle, clapping, or saying "Psst!" when a cat misbehaves.
For a lot more information on aggression and misbehaving kitties there is an ebook you may be interested in. It provides more information and advice then I could ever give on cat behavior problems. You can Click Here
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I hope things turn out well for you and your girl,
When cats try to assert their territory like your kitty is,... it's best to actually take them out of the place where they'd be aggressive. Most will run when there are "visitors". Some want to stand their ground. You've got the latter. Best to isolate them from visitors by putting them in a comfy room with places to go sleep/curl up and ignore the world.
When they swat - learn to ignore them. Push them away/or walk away if they swat or nip and don't give the behavior any attention. Good or bad. Patience is the key here. Kitty behavior is stubborn sometimes. cheers.
confirmed ragdoll/maine coon mix
by: S. Lindsey
The mother is a constant visitor at the coffee shop where Tinkerbella was found. She is a maine coon.(We finally tracked down her owner, and the cat is finding a new home.) She was a late adoptee...She was around 4-6 months old when I recieved her. The initial girl who rescued her could not keep her with the 3 dogs and 2 ferrets. (I can only imagine what that month with her house could have been like. She had rescued Tink's 2 brothers as well.) She has been with me longer than my husband has. The ragdoll is a guess by the vet, based on her strange issue with going limp when you pick her up. She has always been a BOLD and highly intelligent cat. As I write this, she is asking me to play fetch with her plastic snake at her feet. Unfortunately I cannot afford the book at this point. I'm on a fixed income and this month is both of their shots. (I've saved up.) Free advice is welcome. Thank you for your suggestions and good thoughts :)
Sounds like you're being patient - keep it up.
We found when our male maine Coon was dominant
we blew in his face. He hated it and retreated.
No shouting, bottle rattling.
On a more severe occasion Buddy drew blood from my husband's forehead, perilously close to an eye! This from a clawed swipe, through the stairs. Buddy got the suprise of his life. He got a Cesar Milan 'bite.' Buddy hasn't repeated his bad behaviour.
If you've watched the dog Whisperer, the 'bite'
is where you splay your fingers into a claw and
push (not hard), at the side of the cat or dog, simulating a bite.Good luck!
confirmed Maine Coon cross
by: S. Lindsey
Her mother's owner has been found finally. The former owner, a college student from another state, admitted to leaving her maine coon to roam while she went home for summer break. She expected to rejoin her cat in the fall. The ragdoll part is a guess from a vet based on her going limp when being picked up (a common ragdoll trait.) With my husband, she is all the sweetness and affection of both breeds. I recieved her when she was about 4-5 months. She had been rescued along with her 2 brothers at ~3 months by a college student with 3 dogs and 2 ferrets. I don't know what her experience was before she became my Tinkerbella. Shortly thereafter I started dating my husband, and she decided he was HER boyfriend. Iam on a fixed and limited income so I have to save up for their vet visits which shots are this month. Unfortunately I cannot afford to also buy a book. Free advice is appreciated.
Thank you for the suggestions and thoughts.
Sorry if this is a duplicate reply...I don't know where the first reply ended up.
10 Month Old Female Maine Coon; Jekyll and Hyde??
Hi! I just adopted a 10 month old female Maine Coon from a shelter last week.
I already have a 1 1/2 year old neutered domestic shorthair who is just as sweet as can be, but I could see he could benefit from having a cat pal.
I have the female in her own room, and the two cats have visited each other a few times, and it has gone well. She lets him lick her head, and she rubs up against him, etc.
However, a couple of times I have been visiting her and as I was about to shut the door she spots him, and runs at full force out of the room to attack him; I can't even stop her in time! (This all happens just as I am shutting the door to her room).
She runs after him, attacks him (she has very short claws from being spayed so she doesn't hurt him) and he is left completed terrified, even after I get her back in her room.
I just don't understand why she tolerates him in a room, but the moment she gets out into the rest of the house randomly attacks him!
That is odd, isn't it? Well, it's as you know it's related to the new environment and changes. And I do think it will subside as she acclimates. The way that they are already accepting each other at times is a good sign of things to come.
It seems to have something to do with the exposure to rooms. You might want to try switching the cats for a little while sometimes. I wonder if she just needs to see and be comfortable in the rest of the house.
As a side note: Females can be a bit "moody" at times. My Alice sometimes hisses at her brother Leo when he gets in her space. Girls!
All The Best,
Any time I introduce a cat (not a little kitten) to my other cats I set the newcomer up in an extra large wire crate in the living area of the house. The litter box is in the back, bed in the middle and water & food up front in the crate. This allows my resident cats to come near, investigate, smell and leave safely. I leave it that way until the residents and the new cat seem unperturbed about each other. This takes a month or more.
I have never had this method to fail. The cats will sort out the pecking order with a few hisses and slaps, but nothing bad.
Maine Coone X Rescue Cat Is Aggresssive
I have recently adopted a Maine Coon cross rescue, she is 3 yrs old and has been in 3 foster homes in quick succession. The first kept her in a room on her own which made her more aggressive and traumatised.
The cat rescue told me she is affectionate and gets on well with other cats however she will not tolerate my resident 12 week old kittens.
She lets me stroke her head but only breifly before hissing/biting. I have invested in a Feliway Diffuser and am considering getting Bach's Rescue Remedy.
I let her mix with kittens unless its bedtime or im out of the house, is there anything else I can do to help her accept the kittens and me and my daughter who's 9?
How long have you had your new girl? It sounds like you are doing everything right. Both of the remedies you mention work well. Sometimes it takes animals quite some time to adjust. Your girl has had an especially hard time, the only reality she has known till now has been to be shuffled around.
The goal is to reach the point where she forgets the past and can't remember life before you. The best thing you can do is give her time and patence.
I would suggest that you let your daughter give her a nightly treat, and perhaps a quick stroke on the head, working up from there. Kids tend to move quickly and be loud on occasion. So even if your daughter is always calm and kind to the cat, the cat doesn't quite know what to make of her yet.
As for the kittens, they probably try the patience of your girl. She doesn't know what they will do next, and does not want to to play with them (yet!) You are right to let them be together only when supervised. This will improve as they age, calm down, and she gets acclimated.
Sometimes, when the kittens are in another room, try to get your new girl to play with you. Try a feather or something similar on a string. Tease her gently with it and see if she will start to play. This will really help her guard to come down.
Perhaps others will have some suggestions or experience to share, too.
All the Best, and Congrats on your new kitty family!
That old green-eyed monster. When I read the descriptions on PetFinder, I'm astonished at the cats who love other cats, dogs and people. Now, if you were talking about my Samoyed dog, I'd believe it. He really does love everybody, including the cats, and is hurt that, with one exception, they don't love him back. Adding another cat to the household, that's another matter. Even if you follow the introduce-them-bit-by-bit routine, that's no guarantee of a good outcome. Jealousy is still likely to enter the picture.
It started with Meouch (Meouch the Grouch), who really wanted to be the only cat, a fact I didn't know in advance. Mu'izza (Izzy) came next, a kitten who simply refused to be disliked. She curled up to sleep next to Meouch and ignored all signs that she was not welcome. Who, cute little me? You can't mean it! Fufluns (Foofly) came next and was always low kitty on the totem pole, along with my daughter's cat Moolimoot. So she was mostly attached to me. They would form temporary alliances, such as Izzy and Mooli surrounding the cat door so that Meouch couldn't get in; and all four of them against a half-dead snake they'd hauled in through the cat door. Onto my living-room floor.
Meouch, Mooli, and Izzy are all gone now and there are only two left: Foofly and my daughter's Siamese mix. I can see that Foofly is lonely, and the Siamese has been making approaches of friendship, but she isn't having any of it. She's 12 and he's a year and some. Generation gap? Also, I caught him swatting at her plumy tail. It was too tempting.
I've started to look for a new cat and am not sure how the two resident kitties will react. Ideally, a cat with the unflappable character of a Maine Coon, who with good luck can befriend at least one of the two, if not both. Because she seemed to miss Izzy so much, I'm been extra-attentive to Foofly, which may have been a mistake. She may react all the more jealously if a new cat joins the household.
Whaddya think, a kitten or an older cat?
Well, I don't know if there is a right decision, kitten or older cat.
Foofly is older and would perhaps appreciate a more mature cat who will hang out with her and not pounce on her.
On the other hand, it sounds like the Siamese mix is really itching for a playmate. If he's been trying to make friends with Foofly and she's not interested, I'm not sure if she would be more welcoming to freindship from another.
I think a safer bet would be to get a younger (perhaps 2-3 range) friend for them and see who bonds with who. I think your boy needs a playmate, and Foofly, at over 12, is pretty set in her ways.
That's my 2 cents! But, any cat you choose will obviously be getting a wonderful home!
I was thinking along the same lines and I've just heard of a rescue Maine Coon (probably a mix) aged about 1-3 years old. Could be at least a companion for the Siamese, who has touched me by his unappreciated efforts to make friends with Foofly. With good luck, even willing to be buddies with the Sammy. As well as brighten everyone's life.
Aggressive Behavior In Female Maine Coon
by: Lisa Corey
Help. My female Maine coon that was born 10/27/09 has been acting aggressive at night time when I go to sleep.
She has not been neutered nor do I intend to breed her and she is an inside cat. Her parents were show cats which I have no interest in I just want to understand what I am doing wrong. I am not sure if I should have her neutered and that is why she is acting more aggressive.
I do not want her personality to change and fear that having her neutered would change her usually adorable self. With that being said her behavior lately has me puzzled.
I also have keep her claws clipped she does not scratch furniture and she has all the toys several huge cats trees that are placed high so she can see outside.
She plays fetch is great with grandkids and always talks to me. We have a routine and she is my shadow always helping me do laundry, cook, make the bed and clean. She has been an absolute joy.
Every night when it is time to go to bed she usually needs me and then settles down beside me and sleeps right next to me every night. No matter how many times I toss and turn she just meows and settles right back down. This is our routine. My husband is also in bed but she is always on my side.
Since I keep her claws clipped she cannot scratch me but now when I go to bed at night now she jumps up on the bed ears back and bites really hard and draws blood then jumps off bed and comes back for another round.
At night we close the bedroom door with her in the bedroom we have done this with her since she was a kitten. We have a huge bedroom and bathroom and she has everything she needs food, water litter box.
I have had to remove her from bedroom and close the door because she will not calm down. This has gone on for a few nights and in the morning she is her usual self following me around until I go to work.
I did go out of town for a few days recently is she just mad at me or should I be doing something else as far as getting her neutered?
Well, this is a problem for sure! I honestly have no idea if it is related to her not yet being spayed (boys are neutered), but this would be a good quesion to ask your vet.
Not having her spayed would mean that she would go into heat, though, several times per year. It's no fun for you or her, and if you are not going to breed her I would advocate for getting her spayed asap.
If she were in heat, you would know it. She will raise her rear end, and howl a lot. Perhaps even spray in the house, much like a male cat.
My thoughts are that she is either going into heat soon or in pain. Female cats can get aggressive in thier desire to find a male cat, no matter what. (She will also try to bolt out the door, so you may end up with a surprise litter of Maine Coon mixes one day.) It's possible the aggression is related to heat.
Or, something could be bothering her. It's odd that she's her normal self during the day, though. I would ask the vet.
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I hope this helps, and you and your girl get some peace at night, soon!
spaying/neutering can cause weight gain
I know that getting the female cat spayed would make her more fatter than before.
it happened to both of my male and female cats after their fixing operation.
Get your girl spayed. She is probably suffering from polycystic ovaries because she comes into heat and isn't bred. Females only release their eggs when stimulated by the tom in breeding. Spaying also reduces the chance of ovarian and mammary cancer. Spaying will not make her any less adorable and loving, in fact, she may become more loving since the hormones aren't running her crazy.
Spaying/neutering does not necessarily lead to obesity. Their metabolism doesn't change, but their activity level does. Since they aren't as active when they get older, they need fewer calories than kittens. You control the kind of food and amount. They can't jump in a car with their friends and go to the burger joint and get a double order of cheese fries. HeHeHe
Spaying doesn't make a cat fat
by: Toni Bondy
I have always spayed or neutered my cats and not one of them has ever gotten fat because of it.
My biggest cat was my maine coon male. He weighed 19 pounds for most of his life and as he aged, his appetite lessened on its own, so he actually lost weight instead of gaining it.
It's also important to only feed a cat quality foods. The inexpensive brands are full of corn and other grains along with a lot of fat. They are just empty calories for cats.
Back to the aggression problem!
I don't know if spaying your cat will fix her night time aggression, but I do know that it won't change her sweet personality during the day. Spaying actually makes a cat sweeter and calmer.
The hormones prior to spaying make cats nervous and edgy. Compare it to a teenaged male human and you'll have a good picture of the frustration a female cat goes through every month during her cycle. It's NOT fun!
If spaying doesn't work, come back and ask for more help. Aggression is usually related to:
3) Someone treating the cat badly and making it fearful
Good luck and I hope you get your sweet night time kitty back soon
Maine (Mean) Coon Cat help me with worming!
by: Diane Dudley
(Hemlock MI USA)
My cat (whom I love dearly) hates me, well sort of. He doesn't like to be petted, brushed, he only likes to rule the house, eat, dominate big Golden Retriever (who will walk way around KiKi), sleep on the bed and God forbid you disturb him!
I am worried because he has lost weight, 7 yrs old, always hungry, meowing a lot more than usual.
I want to worm him as he is outside a lot and has squirrel dinner sometimes with bird dessert. He will fight me getting pill down and will walk away from any powdered med on food no matter how hungry.
Any suggestions short of vet and sedative? Don't want to do that.
It's too hard to know what's going on with your boy without recommending a trip to the vet. I don't know about your vet, but mine is never quick to recommend a sedative. In fact, that has only been used in rare occasions. And the decisions are always up to me with regard to testing, etc.
You shouldn't ever feel like going to the vet is a last resort because of what your pet might "have to" go through. If that's the case, you might want to ask some friends for vet recommendations.
If he's losing weight, it is possible that worming him will take care of the weight issue. But, since he's quite a hunter there is a good chance they will come right back.
As for the pilling itself, there is a technique that works quite well. I like to coat the pill in lots of butter. This makes it very slippery. Then I "sit on" or straddle the pet from behind (with no weight applied of course) tilt the head back and open the mouth, popping the pill as far down the throat as possible. Then clamp that mouth closed with your hands and stroke the throat until you feel him swallow at least once. The key is not to hesitate, and get it down the first time. You may need a second person to hold his feet, if he's a scratcher.
It sounds like quite a procedure, but really it's not. When one of my pets needs a pill I can do this in 3 seconds, before they even know what hit them!
I should add that a key to this is we have a very hands-on relationship. They are used to being touched, they are submissive to people, and trust us to touch them anywhere, anytime.
Your story is different, so I hope some of our visitors will comment and add their suggestions: How do you pill a difficult animal? Is there a food you mix it with?
And one more time, Diane, I must add that it really sounds like your boy needs to be checked up by a vet. Worms may or may not be the problem.
All The Best,
A different kind of worming treatment?
by: Caroline (UK)
I agree with Carrie that a visit to the vet is in order to rule out possible health issues, including thyroid, which might be indicated by the loss of weight and constant hunger.
On worming - again, great idea from Carrie about putting butter on pills (thanks, I shall use that trick!) but there are treatments for worming which are 'liquid droplet' medications you put on the back of the cat's neck. I use one for my cat that is called Profender - it's only available on prescription from the vet (at least, here in the UK) but it works well for cats who don't like pills or powder sprinkled on their food. I use it for my cat and have seen no ill effects, and it certainly keeps the worms away.
Outdoor cats should be wormed regularly so it's a better option than trying to get a pill down your cat every three months, especially if he doesn't want to be pilled!
Go to the vet
Go to the vet! Truth is you don't know what is wrong with him and the wrong treatment might kill him. All the older cats that I have had in my life that started loosing weight weren't wormy. One had hyperthyroidism, another was diabetic, another had kidney failure, another congestive heart failure, and the list goes on and on. I had one cat that was 21 when she died and it just was from old age; she was worn out.
Put a plastic Elizabethian Collar on your cat's head and when you pill them they can't reach up and scratch or grab you. If I have to do it by myself I "scruff" them by the nape of the neck and usually their mouth flies open. Pop the pill down quickly.
When you visit your vet, have him show you how to effectively give KiKi medication without being scratched or bit. (If you don't have an E-Collar the vet will have them.)
GO TO THE VET!
by: Gail (Quincy, MA, USA)
Perhaps your cat hates you because you keep trying to medically treat him when he really needs to go to the vet. He sounds pretty stressed. Independent though cats are, they still look to you as their 'mom' and being their Guardian means going to the vet to rule out anything serious. If your cat doesn't like the vet, maybe it's time to find a new one.
I've never known a Maine Coon to behave the way yours does. Mine is no lap cat, but she loves attention, likes brushes and follows me everywhere talking a blue streak, LOL!
I'm not a fan of having an outdoor cat since there's so much for them to get into; however, to each their own. If your cat is decimating the animal population - birds, squirrels and the like, he could've contracted something that's causing the weight loss. Worms may not be the only issue; there could be another underlying condition. He could also be missing some nutrient(s) causing him to eat wildlife. Only a thorough vet exam will tell.
As for pills, when my (late) Sadie needed a pill for her thyroid condition, I bought Greenie's Pill Pockets. They're flavored (tuna, salmon, beef, turkey, etc.); they're soft and have the consistency of Play Dough and can be purchased at any pet supply store, no prescription. It's a little pocket you put the pill in, then you seal it up and give it to the cat like a treat. Mine loved them! Since Sadie knew what the word 'medicine' was, I used to say to her 1st thing in the morning: "Sadie...Mommie's got a special TREAT for you!" Her little body would quiver with excitement and she gobbled it up without a problem. Who knows? Maybe it'll work for you to.
Please let us know how you make out with your petulant little furkid. Good luck!
Please take him to a vet.
As above, I would be taking the cat to a vet for peace of mind. My Maine Coon X has to have asthma medication and while he does not enjoy it, he is no bother. I avoid pills if possible, otherwise I crush them and give on his teaspoon with a little water. Charlie Brown always gets extra hugs and praise afterwards. I nearly lost my boy to FUTD so he has been on CD diet for over 6 years. He was on antibiotics for three months when he was very ill. I found him just in time, he was in the cat enclosure all the time.
Maine Coon, very agressive, HELP!
Hello there! My parents bought a Maine Coon cat who is about 8-12 months old.
At first, she was shy and she hisses, bites and/or scratches us. About 5 days later, we could already hold her and she was very affectionate. After 2 days, my parents brought her to a vet.
The vet gave her the microchip implant and her vaccines. After this, she was still affectionate but sometimes doesn't want us to pet her. We noticed she liked peeping out of the windows and likes to see the birds outside.
Now, (after 7 days) she has turned very aggressive and we can't pet her. She has already scratched me and my parents and hisses. At first we thought it was because of the vet visit but her behaviour after the visit was calm.
We can't seem to understand what the problem was and my parents are already talking about selling her or donating her to the pound. She is very aggressive, but I don't want to give her up. Please Help!
I'm sorry your new girl isn't settling in well. I just don't have know enough about your situation, home, lifestyle, or her personality and past experiences to know why she is acting out.
Is she a purebred Maine Coon from a breeder? If so, reputable breeders will always take back their cats and find them a home that's a better fit. Maine Coons shouldn't be aggressive, it's not in their nature.
If she's not from a breeder, you may have a Maine Coon look-a-like or mix. That gentle personality is only a guarantee with purebreds.
It almost seems like she's acting out of fear. Have you slowly introduced her? One of our visitors suggests a good method for introducing a new cat on this page.
My guess is that she's overwhelmed and feeling pressure to be the "family cat" too soon. If she's already roaming freely and
you have other pets, that would increase her stress.
I recommend re-introducing her, starting from scratch. She's not comfortable yet.
Wishing you all the best,
Hello again, thanks for replying. As for your question on whether or not she's a Maine Coon, I definetely know that she is. While looking for a cat, my dad and I came to your website to look at the personalities and traits about the Maine Coon. We are absolutely positive that she is one. She has been very affectionnate up until now.
We just found out that her stool has blood on it. I saw in a site that says she might've have a stomach irritation or even diarrhea and that if she's under a lot of stress, it may lead to an irritable bowel condition.
My family is gonna move to a new country really soon, so I think that she has come to a lot of stress. I don't really know if that is her case though.
Please see the vet again
by: Gail (Quincy, MA, USA)
Hi Eunice, If your cat has blood in her stool, you really should return to the vet. She could be in serious pain, but only the vet can make that determination. She may also have URI (urinary tract infection), which is very painful and requires meds; otherwise, it could eventually become fatal. If that's the case, each time you touch the cat, her pain will make her act aggressively. Keep in mind that cats, by nature, are good at hiding pain - it is instilled in their nature. For yours to behave in this manner, something is terribly wrong.
Your cat also sounds like it's under a lot of stress. That could also make the cat act out; however, my money's on a health issue. Why are your parents in such a hurry to get rid of her? You say you're moving to another country or county? Either way, sudden change exacerbates stress too.
Cats are not disposable items, to be discarded just because they may have an issue. It is a lifelong commitment. If you cannot give your baby the proper quality of life, PLEASE do not give her to the pound; she will be killed. (Euthanasure is not the appropriate word here; that is reserved for terminally-ill animals.) If you cannot find someone, give her to a 100% NO-KILL shelter or rescue group who will re-home her into an appropriate setting.
Good luck. Please let us know how you make out.
Aggressive Maine Coon; Male
We took in an abandoned Maine Coon; had him neutered and shots; brought him home to a home with three other male cats.
They weren't happy, but accepted him. The Maine Coon stayed away from them while he got used to his new surroundings. Everything seemed fine; for 8 months. Last week we had to have the Vet shave him due to mats.
He was anesthetized and also x-rayed to check out his hips. It was just an in and out visit. But since then, he has become aggressive to all the cats and attacks them constantly. One of the cats more than the other two.
We aren't sure how old he is. Maybe 3? He has never attacked before. He is playful now and seems to love his new cut. But our 6 year old other male has been under the bed for 8 days now.
Every time he comes out, if the Maine Coon sees him he attacks him and it is really bad. Fur flies everywhere. The Maine Coon also attacks the other two cats, but they run from him and we tell him NO, and it usually ends. But not so with the other cat.
The Maine Coon stalks and looks for the one until he locates him, there seems to be no stopping him. Last night it was really bad. No one can rest while the Coon is awake. We have to be on guard for the others to be safe. The Maine Coon seems to be like the others I have read about.
How do we stop him from terrorizing and hurting our other cats?
Why is this happening now after 8 months?
Could he be messed up from the anesthesia or the rabies shot?
My husband brought him to our family and we love the Coon very much, but the other cats lives have changed so much in the past eight days.
We are afraid we may have to put the Coon down. Can anyone help us?
I'm so sorry to hear of your frustrations. Cat aggression is never fun to deal with.
So, it sounds like he was fine before his shave. He had integrated with the family and everything was going along well, although he wasn't ready to be touched much.
I would guess that this behavior directly relates to his recent experience at the vet, and being shaved.
It's also possible that even if he seems to be strutting his new cut, he may feel insecure. That would explain why he might go after your biggest cat. He might feel he needs to attack before he gets attacked. Just a thought.
I would recommend a re-introduction, as outlined in the submission below, titled Getting my first cat to accept my new Maine Coon.
For further help, you may be interested in a popular e-book all about cat behavior and misbehavior. It provides info on keeping peace in multiple cat households, introductions, and aggression between kitties. You can Click Here
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If you still have trouble down the road, and can't keep him, please consider re-homing him. It's possible that he needs to be in a home with no other pets. I don't see anything in this description that warrants having him put down.
All The Best,
Mine has always been agressive...
by: Lee Anne
My coon is almost 2-1/2 now. When he was a kitten, he got along with the other four cats, but as soon as he got bigger than them, he started terrorizing them. It seems to be a game he plays, as there are times when he will sleep two feet away from one with no interest in attacking. But much of the time, especially when he's found up, he'll chase the others throughout the house.
He ignores voice commands, too, despite us trying to train him.
What's a mother to do?
by: Missys mom
If you figure out how to calm him down let me know. Missy-sweetie pie, seems to be more calm when we feed her all by herself in her own bowl. She will knock the snot out of any of the other cats and kittens if they come near. So I recently discovered she likes catnip and she seems to allow the others presence as long as she is under the influence. maybe she will change, hahahaha shes a coone
Our Maine Coon, Sweetie(Female), has been with us for 3 years and is proabbly 4 years old, ro close to it. She has always gotten along with the other 3 cats, until today.
This morning she was attacking our oldest & youngest ones, for no apparent reason. I came here hopign for answers, too.
Aggressive Maine Coon; Male
by: Sue from Romeo, MI.
We have begun using a spray water bottle on our
Maine Coon when he starts to stalk our one other
cat (the 30lb. one). He doesn't like it, and we tell him a firm NO at the same time. We keep the
sprayer right with us and carry it around as we
patrol the house. We spray him as he is doing whatever it is that we don't want him to do. If
we don't have the sprayer with us we only firmly tell him NO; we don't go get the sprayer and hunt him down. The cat he has been intimidating
has been a little better the past two days. Nothing else seemed to work on the Coon. He is just the sweetist looking, and innocent looking
and over the last eight months has become gentler
with us; it is hard to believe when we look at him, that at times he can be so evil. So far the
sprayer has been a live saver. He runs when we give him a squirt but he doesn't seem to get mad
and hold a grudge. He comes back to be petted or jump in the chair with us or right by us. If you
are experienceing this kind of problem, please
don't get physical with these Coon's. They almost all have bad hips and are already experiencing pain due to that or arthritis. We knew
he was limping and probably had something wrong with his hip. But when we took him to the Vet for his shave, we had them do the x-ray and found
out about the hips. Thank you all for helping.
I'll up date you about the progress of the attacks.
But for now, the sprayer is working; just a pump or two and he's off running.
Will have to try again
by: Lee Anne
We used the sprayer when he was a kitten, then heard that Coons like water, so hadn't used it since. 'Will have to try that again. Thanks!
Female Maine Coon attacking smaller cat
I have a female Maine Coon who stalks my other smaller cat. The other cat was here first and didn't really like the Maine Coon. I actually have 3 Maine Coons and they all came at the same time. There seems to be a power struggle between these two only, but the little cat won't fight back she just hisses and runs. The Maine Coon will hide and jump on her from behind. She actually left a claw in the forehead of the little cat once. I use the sprayer and tell her no, but this has been going on for a year. She will run when she sees the sprayer and she knows we get upset with her when she attacks but she just comes back to us "talking" like she's sorry. My little cat lives in fear of this bully, any suggestions for help?? She is really a very sweet cat when she's not attacking, and she doesn't bother the other two MCs. I'm certainly not going to rehome her or have her put down, I would just like to stop her from attacking this little cat.
Pugsley's Mean Attitude
Maine Coon Cat Aggression
Good afternoon. I have two Maine Coon cats one is Princess Watermellon, and Puglsey who is a 4 year old male Maine Coon cat. They are litter mates I have had them for four years.
Recently, like yesterday, Pugsley loves to go out side but it has been raining, so he come back in about an hour, keeps getting on the bed wet I might add, so I dried him off. Then he was sitting on my space of the bed, so I skooched him up alittle bit, then he hissed at me and swatted at me!
He did that a couple of months ago, we know he doesn't like any Mumbo Jumbo. We inherited two kittens, and we have a Daschund for one year now. But I havent seen that before. What could be wrong with him?
I think Pugsey's okay. Aggression in cats can be concerning for sure, and if it continues you would want to look for the root of the problem, for everyone's safety and for his happiness!
Since it happened just yesterday, and it coincided with Pugsley's not being able to go outside as usual, it's safe to say he was just feeling ugly about that.
Cats are funny. They don't 'like' or 'dislike' people, as in having feelings of hatred but they have definite preferences. And they get agitated sometimes. They feel stress.
Pugsly was probably mad because he wanted to be outdoors! Grumpy, even.
Let me know if it persists, though. Then we'd want to look closer.
Hope the sun comes out for Pugsley,
Reply To Pugsley's Mean Attitude
by: Laurielle Cuthbertson
Good morning Carrie, you don't think somethings wrong with Pugsley do you? I will do what you say, keep a close eye on things. I brush his coat, and teeth when he allows it, atleast once a week, should I be doing the teeth alot more? What are things I should look for?
Maybe I am worrying, but I want to get a physical on my older cats and then my kittens.
Thank you for your reply.
Cause for Concern
by: Maine Coon Cat Nation
If you are still concerned about Pugsley, absolutely take him for a vet check, I agree! If all the pets are due for a check up it will be a perfect opportunity to talk with your vet about it.
If it's really out of character for him, then something could be bothering him. It could be important, but it could have been as simple as his fur getting pulled or a leg being stretched a little when you slid him over.
The reason I wasn't too concerned is because based on your first question: he hissed and swatted at you once, on a rainy day, when you moved him on the bed. (and he had done it once before in the past) But, you know him better than anyone. If you feel you'd like a vet check, then go with that instinct.
Things to look for would include a continued bad attitude. More hissing and swatting, at you or other pets. Decreased appetite and lower level of activity are also signs of trouble.
Hope this helps,
Getting my first cat to accept my new Maine Coon
recently took a 4 yr old female Maine Coon from a friend of could no longer care for her. But my 2 yr old male cat is afraid of her and she is aggressive towards him.
This is making for an unhappy household. I don't know what to do. My house isn't set up well for keeping them apart and I hate locking either one up all the time. I'm about to give her away because I love my male cat and he was here first! HELP!!
Sounds like you are at your wits end! You've done such a good thing by taking in this cat, and it's not turning out the way you must have expected. Poor kitties are confused, too. I hope I can help!
It sounds like your new girl is experiencing some stress and anxiety. It's sometimes called "territorial aggression". She doesn't know what to do with herself in this new place with new people and a new cat.
Here is what I would recommend:
A "start over" period, where your girl is confined to her own room and your boy has run of the house. He needs to get back to "status quo" and she will benefit from the security of her own space.
Keep it this way until both cats seem totally comfortable. (she should purr easily for you, and just seem happy to see you and have a visit) She'll need her own litter box & food/water dishes in this room.
During this time, you could try switching their bedding so the cats get used to each others scents. Also, here are a few natural, herbal products designed to help calm cats and reduce aggression you may want to look into: herbal remedies for cat aggression
Alternatively, you could try a plug-in diffuser. This plug-in diffuser, called Nutri-Vet Pet-Ease Calming Mist & Diffuser, uses natural herbal essential oils to reduce stress and anxiety and promote relaxation.
Another one on the market is called Feliway. It uses chemicals to mimic cat pheromones to help calm them.
Then, when some time has passed, maybe they could just see each other. Look for signs of stress. Keep it brief, make sure they don?t have contact, and maybe give a treat.
Keep going with this so slowly! You could maybe put a child gate in the doorway, let them see each other, have a treat, and be done for the day. Work your way up to having them in the same room for treats or some special canned food. Have the girl on a harness, if you can.
The reason is that if there is any hissing or attack, it'll set back their progress.
***Your key will be for her to remember her time with him fondly. So she'll associate him with treats, good food, etc. That's key.***
This is something you might need a partner for, and you might only do for a few minutes a day for a while. Then maybe twice a day, then off-harness.
It might take a very long time. And they may never be friends. Hopefully she can relax and feel at home soon!
I've had cats that didn't get along. That all would change when feeding time came. After they realize that they're going to be together, they'll slowly accept the idea.
My Cat Bites
My 10 year old female cat has always been a biter. But she just bit my husband on the forehead and drew alot of blood, he is really angry and ready to get rid of her.
I have 2 sick dogs in the house, both are in end stage disease, the cats dont come down stairs because my one dog wont let them, the only healthy dog any help.
Boy, you are in a tough situation. Sorry to hear about your dogs. That is hard.
It sounds like all the animals in the house are under stress. And I can understand your husbands feelings.
I'm inclined to think your girl kitty is unhappy. It's possible she's also sensing the illness in the house. Animals, out of instinct, will sometimes try to 'abandon' a sick member of the pack.
I think she doesn't want to be there in those circumstances. She's very likely one of many pets who really want to be an 'only pet.'
Do you have any friends or family members who could take her in temporarily, while you tend to the sick dogs? That way you could test whether her behavior changes. You could see if she became more happy and relaxed, which would reduce the chance of biting.
Is she declawed? If so, biting is her only recourse when she feels insecure. Where she'd prefer to give a small swat as a warning to dogs, she now has to resort to teeth which have much more potential for damage.
If she's not declawed, it's a behavior trait you can work with. You can do some cat behavior training to try to get her out of that habit. But first deal with her high level of stress. She won't change her ways until her atmosphere changes.
Also, I have found an extensive e-book that addresses cat behavior problems, and includes a whole section on how to stop biting behavior in kitties.
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All The Best,
More Cat Behavior Questions:
It could be that your cat smell the scent on the dogs or some other scent. When the cat bites, very lightly rap him/her just above the nose and say 'no.' Usually, the cat will eventually shy away from you when hearing the word 'no' and associating it to your hand being held close to the head (the cat's head).